STATEMENT OF FAITH

STATEMENT OF FAITH

About Holly

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I am a Christian first, attempting to follow Christ daily (failing sometimes), grateful always for new mercies. I am not looking for a new title, I am happy to be called after the name of Christ.  

Christ alone is my righteousness, wisdom, sanctification, redemption, all glory goes to Him – 1 Cor 1:30-31.  (In non Christian-ease language, it means that all things that are good in me, is solely due to the fact that Christ took my place in death on the cross for my sins, and all of His perfection and goodness is attributed to me because of Him alone).  

Many people call themselves Christians, yet haven’t really believed the good news, that Christ died and paid the penalty in full for our sin debt (the wages of sin is death).  Many still feel they must DO something or STOP something or PROMISE something in order to receive His free gift of everlasting life.   When we believe, we are freely given eternal life, which means we have it now.  No one can snatch us out of His hand (John 10:28-29) 

  • Do they not blaspheme that NOBLE NAME by which you are called? (James 2:7)
  • And the disciples were first called CHRISTIANS in Antioch.  (Acts 11:26c)
  • Yet if anyone suffers as a CHRISTIAN, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God in this matter.  I Peter 4:16
To pay the bills, I dealt in art most of my life, and am a mother to many (10) and some who are like children to me.  I also am a new grandmother to 4, soon to be 5, all within the last couple of years.  
My desire is to try to walk worthy of the One who has done so much for me.  We are not lordship (loadship) doctrine (religious legalism), nor reformed Calvinist, Arminian, Hebrew Roots, Signs and Wonders, Word of Faith, etc.   We do believe in the eternal security of the believer (some call OSAS), but the Bible explains it as being given the free gift of eternal life (Rom 6:23) and kept eternally by Him.  We do reject the reformed teaching of ‘perseverance of the saints’ (the “P” in T.U.L.I.P.) — which is not the same as eternal security or being eternally secure in Him.  
We are not mid-Acts hyperdispensationalists, nor latter Acts ultradispensationalists, but we see the church beginning in Acts 2 as the Holy Spirit began to baptize people into it.   We also reject Outer Darkness as a future form of punishment for unfaithful believers.    We are pre-tribulational, although we have some brethren that are mid-trib or pre-wrath believers. We do not divide over the timing of the rapture unless one is divisive in their stance regarding it.
 
We are conservative believers, but do not believe that it is likely we will see a good man until the Son of David sits on the throne…. Our stance; God first and His gospel (not social), which is the power of God unto salvation.  His gospel is shared in 1 Cor 15, Christ died for our sins, He was buried in our place, and rose again from the dead in three days, as the Scriptures had already prophesied all these things. Only God can give life.  Jesus took His life back up again, as He prophesied in advance He would do, proving He is God in the flesh, had victory over sin and death, and if you will believe upon Him as your Savior, you will be given the free gift of eternal life.
 

Point people to Christ and His Word.

We need to give Biblical admonitions and prayer for those to turn to Him, commend believers and ELDERS to the Word of His grace (Acts 20:32).   I wish so many church pastors and teachers would lay off the quoting of men so much and just teach the Word. We are to call evil EVIL… (especially within the professing church), but many do not get that right now, we do not judge the world (1 Cor 5:12-13), however we obey God and speak His Word in love.

 

About Admin John Innc

Hi,

My name is John.  I have been a regular reader and poster at expreacherman.com for a few years.  Jack and Bruce have asked me to help them with administration of the site, and to provide commentary when I can.  (And over a year ago or so, I asked John to also join us here as an admin).

I have been a believer for about four years, though I was raised in Southern Baptist Churches.  I have been married to Jane for almost thirty years, and have two teenage children.

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THE BIBLE

I believe the Bible in it’s original languages is the infallible Word of God, the final authority to all matters of life (and death), and was another tremendous gift from the Lord.  I believe it is fully sufficient for all we need (2 Tim 3:15-17).
I believe in the Trinity, the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, God in three persons.  Jesus is God and while on this earth, was fully God and fully man.  Only Jehovah is Savior, and Jesus is testified to in God’s Word as Messiah and Savior.  Therefore, He is God.
I believe Jesus gave us a good example of how to answer others, “It is written” (Matt 4), we live by every word that proceeds out of His mouth.  We should be ready with a defense, in both meekness and fear (1 Pet 3:15).  The Word is the Sword in our armor, it is what should be used to answer not just the enemy, but all who are lost. Somehow the new move in this world, is to ‘speak our own words’ vs. the Word of God so that we are not a ‘Pharisee’.   No, a Pharisee does not have God’s Word abiding in them because they don’t believe… this is the trouble.  They did not HEAR His Word (John 5:37-40).  They were not WILLING to come to Him that they might have life.

The Just shall live by faith

I believe I Cor 15:1-11 (actually 3-4) declares the gospel (only one way to be saved), and what we must believe about the gospel can be found there.  We are justified by faith (belief) in this; that Christ died for our sins (we are sinners and need a Savior, He is the ONLY way).  That He was buried and rose again, proving He was God and fulfilling Messianic prophecies, proving His Word was true, and that the miracles witnessed of who He was.  It shows us that we too will live again and that when we believe on Jesus and what He has done in our place (as the only way to be saved), we have passed from death into life (Jn 5:24).

We must believe on Christ alone for our righteousness, we can add nothing to the equation, and in fact we had better not, or we are still seeking to establish our own instead of relying on His (Rom 10:3-4; 1 Cor 1:30-31).

Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom also we have access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.  And not only that, but we also glory in tribulations, knowing that tribulation produces perseverance; and perseverance, character; and character, hope.  Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us.     Romans 5:1-5

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I stand with preaching Jesus Christ and Him crucified.  Believing in the power of the foolish message that it pleased God to save man by, we should be determined to preach the cross not with wisdom of (man’s) words, lest the cross of Christ be made of none effect.  (I Cor 1:17-18; I Cor 2:2-5).

Many preachers have forgotten the POWER of this foolish message (or never believed it), and trust in their own words, gimmicks or church-speak.  Or worse, they add works to it (stating they are trying to weed out or prevent false conversions).  Unfortunately they are subtly corrupting minds from the message (II Cor 11:1-4). They seem to have forgotten we shall not come into condemnation…

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.  John 5:24
For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.  I Cor 1:21
Faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God, so we must preach the Word in and out of season.  We plant and water, but we never know when the Lord will give the increase.  But you will never have a harvest if you do not plant.  (Rom 10:17, 2 Tim 4:2; 1 Cor 3:6, Ecc 11:1-4)
Repenting from sin, or Turning from sin, or promises of turning from sin, are not in the Gospel, and are works and should not be added.  

 

Try also Thomas Cucuzza’s article on Repentance here

SO GO SOW SOME SEED!

Sometimes we are waiting for the perfect timing, but we should trust God’s Word, it will not return void (Is 55:10-11), and get out there and plant or water trusting Him for the increase.

Cast thy bread upon the waters: for thou shalt find it after many days. Give a portion to seven, and also to eight; for thou knowest not what evil shall be upon the earth.  If the clouds be full of rain, they empty themselves upon the earth: and if the tree fall toward the south, or toward the north, in the place where the tree falleth, there it shall be.  He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap.  Ecc 11:1-4

How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?   And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!  Rom 10:14-15

Other Doctrines

I am not a Calvinist (any points) and am not an Arminian.  Although I may see some partial truths in their declarations of doctrine, I do not follow their ultimate line of reasoning, or agree with their definitions of repentance (turn from sin, or be really sorry), or their final conclusions from certain scriptures.  I see the over-emphasis of some scriptures (taken out of context), to the under-emphasis or altogether exclusion of others.    I just cannot reconcile their conclusion of “truths” by the Word of God.  Nor do I ever want to think of men beyond what is written (I Cor 4:6).  I think all in all, the doctrine is false, and will either keep true believers in bondage and fallen from grace, or will keep the lost from finding Christ, both are tragic.
I am not reformed.  I am not a Protestant.  I was never Catholic, therefore not protesting.
I am a Christian called after the one who died for me.  I have looked at the fruits of Augustine and John Calvin‘s doctrine, and judge them as bad fruit.  I reject the teaching of Perseverance of the Saints* (synonymous with Lordship Salvation according to Calvinist John Macarthur) and although some understand that to mean eternal security, it is not at all the eternal security the Word teaches.  I believe in the Biblical teaching of Eternal security and being given eternal life forever.   I accept the testimony of God about His Son and eternal life; I believe it!  (I John 5:9-13)
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FALSE/ERRANT TEACHING

Besides grieving us deeply (hopefully this is the way it affects you when you hear false teaching of any kind), I believe the Word shows every believer’s responsibility to judge the fruits of bad doctrine because of the great purchase price of the blood of Christ.
We need to expose the unfruitful deeds of darkness (Eph 5:11) prove all things (I Thess 5:21), test the spirits (I John 4:1), search the Scriptures to see if what they say is true(Acts 17:11), warn others (Acts 20:29-31) mark and avoid the false (Rom 16:17-18), not partake in their evil deeds (2 John 1:9-11).  LEADERS (Overseers) should be warning and taking heed to the flock, declaring God’s whole counsel, commending their flock to God and His Word (instead of constantly quoting other men).   Does your pastor defend the gospel (Phil 1:7,17)?  If not, you might ask Him why or leave.
We are living in perilous times. (2 Tim 3:1-9), so we should all warn (carefully and prayerfully).  They draw away followers after themselves, and blaspheme the way of truth (2 Pet 2:1-3).

Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.  For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.  Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.  For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.  Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.  Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.  And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.    Acts 20:26-32

I also believe that there are MANY deceivers (as His Word says) and MANY deceived.  And that we as the church are much to blame as we have stood by and watched in the name of false ‘unity’ or because we’d rather ‘just pray’ or (as one sadly told me), think you are too spiritually mature to be deceived.  Yes pray, and please speak the truth in love, and if you think you’ve arrived maturity-wise, then by all means, warn others, what is the point of being able to discern between good and evil, if you do not do it for the entire body.

As Eve was deceived by the subtilty of the serpent, (2 Cor 11) so can we also be deceived, so we need to be Bereans and constantly be searching the scriptures to see if these things are so (Acts 17:11).

If you would like to know more, below are some good LINKS on Statements of faith and doctrine with which I agree: (As always, prove all things, search the Scriptures to see if these things are so! Look up the Scriptures in context!)

My Testimony is His Testimony

Always ongoing… I love Him because He first loved me, and I have lot’s of sanctification left to be done.  I was not an overnight success story (unfortunately in many ways I regret), but on the other hand, my job is to move close to the Lord and His Word, so He can show me more about His will, and who He is.  He will instruct me, counsel me, give me wisdom, help me grow in Grace, sanctify and cleanse me, teach me His ways through studying with His approval in mind…

By God’s grace and mercy, I had fallen away from following Christ in any obedience, I had slacked just in living and what I thought was enjoying life.  My husband became ill, with a very grave disease.  There was seven years of hardship and blessing wrapped up into one, blessing for the extra time given, hardship for the obvious reasons, and blessing for the nearness of the Lord to the brokenhearted.

My husband went to be with the Lord Nov 2, 2009.  The Lord has been my Comforter and friend during this whole time.

I have four children still at home, three mastiffs, a schnorkie and a cat.   I want to encourage all who read to spend time in His Word daily.  I fail in more ways than I care to admit, but I do best when I stay close to Him in His Word.  Thankful for my friends who remind me to get ‘feet time’ (Lk. 10:38-42)

His Word washes, cleanses, and sanctifies.  We get all we need from reading His Word, studying with His approval, hiding it in our hearts, meditating on it day and night, searching it, etc.  And I don’t know about others, but I need His Word because it lights up my path, gives me guidance, help, encouragement, counsel, wisdom, understand and knowledge of the One who suffered and died for me.  It’s how He speaks to us.  How would any of us feel if we were with someone who wouldn’t let us talk to them for days?  Just talk ‘at’ us?

Got Word?

A few of my favorite quotes from His Word:

  • For I have satiated the weary soul, and I have replenished every sorrowful soul. (I have lived this verse from the Bible) Jer 31:25
  • My soul clings to the dust; Revive me according to Your word.  Ps 119:25
  • “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.” (Word of God) John 7
  • Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn…Isaiah 51:1a,b (I think this is where “cut from the same cloth” came from, although we’re cut from the same Rock).
  • Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee. (Scripture speaking to Israel) Jer 31:3
  • My soul melts from heaviness; Strengthen me according to Your word.  Ps 119:28
  • Deep calls unto deep at the noise of Your waterfalls; All Your waves and billows have gone over me.  The Lord will command His lovingkindness in the daytime, And in the night His song shall be with me— A prayer to the God of my life.  Ps 42:7-8
  • You number my wanderings; Put my tears into Your bottle; Are they not in Your book?  Ps 56:8
  • O God, You are my God; I shall seek You earnestly; My soul thirsts for You, my flesh yearns for You, In a dry and weary land where there is no water.  O God, You are my God; I shall seek You earnestly; My soul thirsts for You, my flesh yearns for You, In a dry and weary land where there is no water. (Generally prefer KJV but like the NASB in this one.) Ps 63:1,8
  • Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.  And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.  Gen 6:5-6
  • Precept upon precept, line upon line, Here a little, there a little.  Is 28 (story of “if” they would have just listened, they could have had the refreshing and the rest, and this is how the Word of the Lord was upon them.  Me too, I just said I would hear).
  • My intercessor is my friend as my eyes pour out tears to God; on behalf of a man he pleads with God as a man pleads for his friend. (Bible) Job 16
  • For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. (Bible) Heb 4:12
  • Turn at my rebuke; Surely I will pour out my spirit on you; I will make my words known to you. (Word of the Lord…) Pr 1:23
  • But as it is written: “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him.  I Cor 2:9
  • But those who wait on the Lord Shall renew their strength; They shall mount up with wings like eagles, They shall run and not be weary, They shall walk and not faint.  Is 40:31
  • Your ears shall hear a word behind you, saying, “This is the way, walk in it,” Whenever you turn to the right hand Or whenever you turn to the left.  Is 30:21
  • Now it came to pass, as they went, that he entered into a certain village: and a certain woman named Martha received him into her house.  And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus’ feet, and heard his word.   But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me. And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.  Luke 10:38-42
  • Nevertheless I am continually with You; You hold me by my right hand.  You will guide me with Your counsel, And afterward receive me to glory.   Whom have I in heaven but You? And there is none upon earth that I desire besides You.  My flesh and my heart fail; But God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.  Psalm 73:23-26
Where do I stop? There is so much good in His Word. Not enough time and space.
It is my food and my drink.
He is my precious Redeemer.
But now, O LORD,
You are our Father;
We are the clay, and You our potter;
And all we are the work of Your hand.    Is 64:8
* For more info on the teaching of Perseverance of the Saints, I found this book to be very thorough.  Available in Kindle and also book form.    Click Here
I also like making Bible verse pictures for others to enjoy.  For more, search ‘Bible Memory Verses’ here.

45 thoughts on “STATEMENT OF FAITH”

  1. Marciegram said:

    Drinking deeply of the word of God and planting it in my heart.

  2. Ginny Caylor said:

    Holly is an inspiration and a blessing to all.

  3. Sis, Holly, it was so nice reading your testimony and I sure did enjoy your favorite quotes!! Thank you for this encouraging site where we can drink up from the living water and feast on food for our souls.
    Keep on “looking unto Jesus the “author and finisher of our faith who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.” Heb 12:2
    Holly I also so enjoy your picture verses that lift the soul into praise for our Lord and Savior, may the Lord continue to bless your ministry for the Glory of God

    Excited in His Service,
    in Christ,
    Jackie Farley

  4. John Gregory said:

    Sister Holly! My name is John. I just turned 67 years old. (12/!5). Your blog is beautiful, & I will add you onto my prayer list. My wife Bea & I have been married
    38 yrs.. We both have been Christians for over 50 years, & we still love serving
    our Wonderful Lord Jesus. I hope to visit often.
    God bless,
    John & Bea Gregory

    • John and Bea (I had an aunt Bea who I loved), so happy to meet you both 🙂 Thank you so much for your prayers. So happy to hear of long term Christian marriages, I am thankful to hear that, it always brings tears to my eyes. It’s the love of Christ that compels us to serve in much joy, because He first loved us. It is not the accusations and fear mongering of men, that is for sure. So pleased to meet more of my sisters and brothers in the Lord. God bless you both!

    • John – do you have a blog?

    • I want to thank you for your prayers John. This popped up today, and I’m appreciative and pray all is well with you both.

  5. are you on skype, mary from ex preacherman,

  6. In a March 20, 2014 reply about Lordship salvation, you mentioned that 150 copies of the Geneva Bible were initially published. Can you tell me where you found that info?-I’ve been searching the internet for months on this. Thanks for your consideration of this. Jim

  7. beholdason said:

    So wonderful. What an encouragement.

    God has truly led me here for encouragement at a time of sadness and loneliness.

    He is always with us and His people are beacons of light all over.

    So awesome. Your children have a fab Mum. (I’m Aussie)

    • Yay! Praise God, I have a few Aussie friends, His bride is all over the world, and He loves and cherishes and gave Himself for her…

      In Christ’s love.

      Ps 42:7-8

  8. SO good to see a fellow-believer who is just – well, “normal” LOL, because that is surprisingly rare these days. May God lead you in all things and in all ways. Thanks for your hard work on this blog.

    • Thank you Tricia. Not sure what normal is 🙂 Although I did pray for normal Christian friends, so I do know what you mean. My desire is just to do as He leads, and not step out in front. To speak truth, not as I see it, but faithfully by His Word. May He be praised, He is worthy to be praised. May the Lord help you too, strengthen you in the spiritual battle, revive and strengthen you in His Word when you becoe discouraged (Ps 119:25,28) and don’t weary of doing good, in due season we will reap (if we faint not) 🙂

      Thank you for stopping by to encourage one of your sistren 🙂

      In Christ’s love, Holly

  9. Hi Holly…needless to say, impressive blog. I know you’ve posted about Calvinism, but it seems to me, that the charismatic movement is the biggest threat to true Christianity today. Here’s a link to a video on YouTube that i can’t recommend highly enough. It’s an expose of what some popular Word of Faith preachers on TV, are teaching today.

    (link removed by administrator)

    May God bless,

    Sean

    • They certainly are one of the threats, seems to be depending on which kind of audience. No matter what, the Word is twisted, the gospel is changed, the Lord’s name is maligned, and the way of truth is blasphemed. Praying people will start reading their Bibles with God’s approval in mind, with respect, and an open heart to diligently seek Him.

  10. Hi Holly, I came across your website when searching for some Ralph “Yankee” Arnold material. After reading your statement of faith, I would have to say that we are in agreement of a lot of things. I have just started a website recently, too. Glad to see other believers who stand firm on the word of God. It can get lonely at times, because many Christians seem to just want to play at being christian. Take care! – Amy

    • Amy, welcome 🙂

      Some just haven’t maybe heard the good news. They’ve heard a gospel with discipleship mixed in, and then left to fend for themselves. If we love Jesus, We will feed His sheep. We will commend them to the Word of His grace. God bless you.

    • Hi Amy, forgive me, I thought I had responded to you. Welcome! I am appreciative of Ralph Yankee Arnold and Hank Lindstrom, along with Tom Cucuzza. I can also tell you another blog that is good is expreacherman.com, Jack and Yankee I believe were either at the same church or school, Florida Bible College. Thanks for stopping in, I’ll come and take a look when I can too. God bless your week, Holly

      • Hi again, Holly. I didn’t realize you had responded. Couldn’t recall where I’d commented. I think I may have been to expreacherman.com before. Regarding people hearing the Good News, I don’t think that’s it for a lot of people I know, and also various public ministries which I see falling away from bible truth in a big way. I think they’re all under deception! Well, that’s my take on it anyway. I do pray for people, though, and for my own spiritual protection as well. Thanks for writing, Holly. God bless you, too.
        ps. I don’t have much on my site yet. Getting there. Building it has taken a lot of time. So much to learn. Amy

        • We’re all learning if we’re studying His Word with His approval. Continuing to press forward 🙂

          Glad to see you here! Yes, expreacherman! God bless your week, see you soon!

  11. Andrea Farioli said:

    I’m very glad of your presentation. Whoever believes in the Gospel is a part of the body of Christ, of the Church of God, without denomination.

    God bless you!

    Greetings from Italy.

    • Andrea, welcome and thanks for your comment.

      Please stick around and comment as you feel led.

    • Andrea, welcome and thanks for your comment.

      Please stick around and comment as you feel led.

    • Hi Andrea, Amen, whoever believes in the gospel is a part of the body of Christ.

      Christ loved the church and gave Himself for us to sanctify and cleanse us with the washing of water by the Word… 🙂 He nourishes and cherishes us, we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. (Eph 5)

      God bless (from the USA).

  12. Hey Holly, where do you stand on the gifts of the Holy Spirit and the work of the Holy Spirit in the 21st Century? Are you a dispensationalist?

    • Hi Ian. I believe the Holy Spirit gives gifts to each member in the church. I do not believe in new revelation, nor do I believe in tongues as a whole as we see manifested today in the Pentecostal/Charismatic churches. I believe God still heals, but the miracles were to confirm His ministry, fulfill prophecy and confirm the ministry and the Word of the Lord being spoken through His servants the apostles. I am a dispensationalist, but not a hyper/ultra mid or latter Acts dispensationalist. There is one gospel that speaks of eternal life, not one for the Jews and one for the Gentiles. Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever, however, He reveals Himself in the way He has chosen, His purpose will stand. I hope that helps explain. In Him, Holly

      • Holly, you seem to be in the now on Bethel Church, basedon first-hand experience. i just discvoered a street healer on You Tube, and his name is Tom Fischer. I understand he had some affiliation with Bethel and was asked to leave for some reason. That’s as much as I know. But I am curious if you have heard of him. He apparently is new and there is little info out on him. I for one hope he is for real.

        I am curious if you have heard of him. I believe in the gifts of the Spirit for today and that Holy Spirit severally as He Wills. I do not believe in healing in the false WOF fashion, and am hoping Fischer is for real because he is reaching countless people in his one-to-one style ministry.

        • Ian, no, it was not first-hand experience, but listening to Bill Johnson’s Words, his wife’s words, and holding them up to His Word. Much research is all, some already done by others.

          As far as the street healer, I do not know him, but I always think of the account in Acts 3.

          Peter and John came upon the blind man who was asking for money. We know Peter told him to look at them and said, “Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.”

          Peter pulled him up. The man was immediately healed. The man praised God, others knew and recognized this man had been formerly lame (no guessing there). As people gathered to see this, instantly it was made known it had nothing to do with their power or holiness, they did not build themselves up as ‘healers’. They pointed immediately to God, and then delivered the gospel, who Jesus was, and what He had done, and that they had witnessed it, and also the Scriptures/prophets had testified to it (same gospel we see in 1 Cor 15C). They also said it was their faith in His name that had made the man strong. They didn’t ask him, ‘do you have enough faith’? He didn’t ask to be healed, he asked for money.

          So with people who claim these gifts, all I can say is test the spirits (1 John 4). Are they glorifying God alone or the ‘healer’? Is the man declaring the gospel (correct one) and is he taking money? Note again, these apostles had no money. So, if he is ‘missing’ on his ‘healing’ and people aren’t immediately being healed, and the gospel isn’t being preached, and money is being taken, I’d have a problem.

          In His name, Holly

          • Far as I know, he is not taking much glory for himself, my sense is that he is not like that. Also, definitely he is not taking money from people on the streets. If you find out anything more about him and his relationship to Bethel let me know. Immediately a red flag would go up if I learnt that he is primarily being supported in his street missionary work by Bethel and Johnson.
            Thank you for your thoughtful response above.

            Blessings, Ian

          • Ian, took a few moments to look him up (Tom Fischer). First we have to of course know what the Scriptures say, and something that troubled me on his “Street healing with Tom Fischer-Casting out demons with a look”, he says a Christian man, had a transfer of ‘spirit’ from an inmate, who hit him with something and then he likened this to how we get the Holy Spirit. A Christian can’t be ‘attached’ by a demon, or inhabited as this man is suggesting. He goes further to use Smith Wigglesworth ‘punching’ people to get the demons out, etc. (I did not finish the video). He also suggests that healing is an evangelism tool because he asks them if they believe in Jesus. But he tells them nothing about who Jesus is (God come in the flesh), what He did (die on the cross for their sins, rose again proving He is God), so I can’t see this as a legitimate spreading of the gospel (at least not on the videos I watched). One one, he says it doesn’t matter if Jesus or the apostles healed that way, it’s a matter of whether or not it works. He reminds me of a street act, a magician. He keeps suggesting to the guy he’s healed, even though he says he needs to have his back cracked and pain pills. He then says he feels a ‘tingling’ in his spine. The other guy responds, ‘my lower back hurts like a b–ch’, and this ‘healer’ is talking about the ‘tingling in the spine’ and the ‘lightness’ about you. He tells the one ‘your sins are forgiven you’. Where does he get that authority when he just told him he didn’t believe? Not that he didn’t believe in Jesus (which he hasn’t been told the gospel yet) but as a ‘method of healing’.

            Then he goes to consult with this medium, he tells her he has seen angels. He wants this medium to ‘come into agreement with him’ so that the demons will leave. How is that so? What agreement do we have with a non believer? This man may or may not have understanding in things that he is saying, I do not know his affiliations, but he has her praying to forgive her for past sins,

              Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 and what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? and what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 2 Cor 4:15-16

            The woman with the street healer is praying to the Holy Spirit, and addressing Him. This is not how we are shown in His Word. The Holy Spirit always witnesses of Christ, He does not draw attention to Himself. And the fire of the Holy Spirit that comes is judgment, not as these people teach.

            The woman with him is praying for Holy Fire to go into her. Then she is exclaiming it’s ‘gone’ from her by taking the Lord’s name in vain, OMG she yells and the preacher giggles with her. “Isn’t that crazy”? “Yes it’s crazy”. Later in the video he and girlfriend/wife/co-partner (not sure, but the previous praying woman on the video) tells about this medium who is now supposedly a semi-believer has cast out another demon out of her home, and then LATER receives the ‘baptism of the Holy Spirit’ because she starts ‘singing in tongues’.

            Just too much error to address Ian, I just pray because someone is doing signs and wonders you are not misled, the point is that many will do this in the end, and not be of Him. Follow the message. See if their gospel lines up with His. A separate baptism of the Spirit is not the gospel message as many as try to show it by a couple different passages they do not understand. They are either in the body, or they do not have the Spirit (1 Cor 12:12-13; Rom 8:9; Eph 4:4-6).

            In Christ, Holly

          • I don’t have time tonight, seeing it’s past 3 AM Sunday night, to go into all the details of your last reply on wordpress. But I just wanted to do this much and relay to you my thanks, Holly. Thank you for the extra time and energy spent on researching this reported healer, as you hit on many points, the majority of which I would concur.

          • Ian, God bless your walk in Him. No better friend than Jesus.

          • There’s a new one now who has his own 501c non-profit, and is rapidly growing in popularity. His name is Art Thomas. Sadly, one discovers in short order on his website that he is very heavily influenced by Bethel. He has some good teachings though but I am befuddled at how these people have no discernment in going public regarding their associations. Art has already been on Sid Roth’s program, It’s Supernatural, a real landmark achievement for those who want to make it big.

          • Ian – these people make it rapidly clear that truth is not utmost and they are disobedient at best. They choose fame or money or popularity and/or they do not understand the truth themselves. We can mark and avoid them obediently, and they will have to answer to Him for their associations which will make little ones stumble. In Christ, Holly

  13. Thank you for clearing that up for me, holly. It’s just that I very much appreciated your apologetics on Bill Johnson and Bethel Church. My position is that of a non-cessationist, a balanced, moderate-line charismatic for lack of better terminology. (Actually I hate the word moderate because it implies that one does not go all out for something, I am all out for Jesus of Nazareth)! I’d rather say that I consider myself a “well-rounded” charismatic, who believes all the gifts of the Holy Spirit are still in operation today. However, I DO NOT believe in the little gods doctrine; I believe as such a one, that one must submit to the will of Spirit who gives gifts severally as HE wills. God is sovereign in all of this.

    • Ian, You are welcome. I believe as you say, the Holy Spirit gives us His gifts as He will, and they will line up with the rules in Scripture, for He is orderly, and a gentleman. For example, many who speak in tongues (the word translates to languages), have not considered that they do not speak with understanding. Here is the conclusion of the address to the church at Corinth in that matter. So if I hear someone tell me that they speak with another language, I ask them if they pray with understanding.

      What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. 1 Cor 14:15

      As for prophesying, I do believe the canon is closed, and we can speak God’s Word, He left us with quite a lot 🙂 and most do not really know the majority of what He has given us. I am content with my position, and always open to what the Holy Spirit will teach me through His Word. Thank you for visiting, appreciate it, God bless and guide us all into His truth always.

  14. Nina Ruth said:

    Love your blog that the Lord led me to just now!

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