UNDERSTANDING CALVINISM & LORDSHIP
Lordship & Calvinism are false doctrines
This is about refuting both Calvinism and Lordship doctrine. I wanted provide any Bereans some videos, books, dvd’s and free pdf files, that might help those of you who do not quite understand the teaching of Calvinism and Lordship (loadship) doctrine and why we feel it is false and harmful.
Although I may not agree with 100% of each person’s doctrine, they are sound on the gospel as far as I know, but as usual, prove all things and be Bereans. Check everything against His Word.
I will keep adding over time! Feel free to share those you feel that might be helpful. In Christ’s love to all who visit here, Holly
LINKS TO REFUTE CALVINISM
EXPOSING CALVINISM FOR WHAT IT IS – Sermon – Pastor Tom Cucuzza
THE DARK SIDE OF CALVINISM – Free book by George Bryson
THE FIVE POINTS OF CALVINISM, WEIGHED AND FOUND WANTING – Free PDF by George Bryson
CALVINISM & FREE GRACE: EXAMINING CALVINISM & SALVATION – A DVD series by Fred Chay including PDFs, listened to all, very reasonable @ $15
CONFRONTING CALVINISM (A 3 part sermon series) by Dennis Rokser
THE OTHER SIDE OF CALVINISM – Laurence Vance
TULIP AND THE BIBLE: Comparing the works of Calvin to the Word of God – Dave Hunt
LIMITED ATONEMENT: Redeemingmoments
Video links refuting Calvinism
VIDEOS OR LINKS ON THE ELECTION OF GOD
VIDEOS ON ELECTION
LINKS ON ELECTION
Explaining the various views on election – Grace notes
WHAT IS THE BIBLICAL MEANING OF REPENTANCE
LINKS ON REPENTANCE
UNDERSTANDING REPENTANCE – Sermon, Part 1, Pastor Tom Cucuzza
UNDERSTANDING REPENTANCE – Sermon, Part 2, Pastor Tom Cucuzza
REPENTANCE, IT’S MEANING AND APPLICATION – Free PDF booklet, Pastor Thomas Cucuzza
REPENTANCE, Thorough teaching by Ron Shea, all verses on repentance referenced.
Videos on Calvinism and Lordship doctrine
Also known as Reformed and Loadship
WHAT’S WRONG WITH LORDSHIP DOCTRINE?
Links explaining the error of lordship doctrine (loadship)
LORDSHIP SALVATION, A BIBLICAL EVALUATION AND A RESPONSE, by Charlie Bing
GRACE UNDER FIRE: THE FALLOUT OF LORDSHIP FAITH TEACHING, Free PDF, by Bruce Bauer
PERSEVERANCE VERSUS PRESERVATION, free PDF or html, by Dr. Charlie Bing
Free Grace vs. back door Loadship (Grace Notes)
VIDEOS
Dr. Ralph Yankee Arnold – 3 parts in one video
Thank you Holly!!! I will definitely take the time to listen to each one of these videos and no matter how long it takes involved with all my grandkids and their activities! ¡°
Love you so much! Teri ¢¾
P.S. I so appreciate you sending these to me!
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Hi Teri, I think it’s automatic, I didn’t send them, but you must have ‘followed’ my blog which I sure appreciate. So anyone signed up gets a notification 🙂 Love you!
Holly,
Have you ever heard the word “ridiculous” used in referring to God’s love?
http://youtu.be/nL09pt-jDFQ
I was wondering if it was some new reformed buzz word.
I appreciate all the work you put into this blog. It is a huge blessing to me!
April
April, it’s hard to keep up with buzz words, and to tell who uses what, seems like some churches are trying to keep up by drawing people’s interest to listen. I’d have to go to see what their gospel is first, before listening to sermons, that is my general mode of operation. I took a quick look at their statement of faith. This is what they say regarding salvation.
About Salvation
Salvation is God’s free gift to us but we must accept it. We can never make up for our sin by self-improvement or good works. Only by trusting in Jesus Christ as God’s offer of forgiveness can anyone be saved from sin’s penalty. When we turn from our self-ruled life and turn to Jesus in faith we are saved. Eternal life begins the moment one receives Jesus Christ into his life by faith.
Romans 6:23; Ephesians 2:8,9; John 14:6, 1:12; Titus 3:5, which the means of becoming saved, some is covered, but it is not by ‘accepting’, even receiving Him comes by belief/faith/confidence in — the truth of Christ and Him crucified for our sins, His resurrection having victory over sin. That would be the part I would feel is missing, although they do a good job of not adding ‘repent from sin’ or ‘turn from sin’ or ‘give your life, or commit your life’ (some of the traditional phrases we have added to synopsize what the gospel says, and we should not of course). I don’t know if somewhere else they have shared the gospel, just took a quick look.
When we believe, He does indeed come to dwell in our hearts by faith. We should read the Scriptures (Eph 3:17) likely vs. paraphrasing. But we see the gospel declared, preached by all the apostles, and it included resurrection, and it includes showing Jesus was God (He took His life back up again and had victory over death.) People need to understand certain truths without adding anything. Expounding upon it is a good thing as they ask, even ‘as the Scriptures said’ (in 1 Cor 15) gives us a chance to tell the prophecies from the beginning of the promise. (Gen 3:15, Gen 12:3 which is called the gospel in Gal. 3:7-9) Isaiah 53, the report people need to believe, that is called ‘obeying the gospel’, seen in Rom 10:14-17. Believe….. We need to believe God came down as man in the flesh, fully God, fully man. He died for our sins, took the penalty/wages of sin in our place (the wrath of God), As the Scriptures said. He did it willingly, because of His great love for the WORLD, not only some. He made each man in His image, (what, because He would choose them for hell? No!), He is NO respecter of persons, and that does not say, (within the church or the elect). God is righteous and just, and that would require no favoritism, that ALL have sinned and ALL deserve death.
The reformed, are very wise in their proof texts, and blind to those or deaf, or ears stopped to those passages that speak otherwise. We can only pray they might hear. I keep sharing the passages and maybe some will hear, or pray, Lord, show me, and believe Heb 11:6 is true. I believe some are saved and have become bewitched (Gal 3) by works, trying to finish in the flesh. Others are false brethren, who have been preaching and believing from the beginning that you must add works of the law to the GOSPEL.
Here is #75 of the 613 works of the law.
To repent and confess wrongdoings — Num. 5:7
Even John MacArthur adds, you must confess from sins BEFORE you can be saved, not as a part of fellowship ONCE we are saved (1 John 1)
Thank you so much by the way for coming by and commenting, God bless your week!
Hi Holly,
Really recommend a book that has just been written by Robert Congdon, a light book and easy to read. It is called “OOPS I THOUGHT I WAS A 4POINT CALVANIST.
iTS VERY GOOD IF YOU GO TO ROBERT CONGDON MINISTRIES HE ALSO HAS OTHERS ON THE UPSIDE GOSPEL OF NEW CALVANISM TOO. ONCE AGAIN VERY EASY BOOKS AND NOT TOO THICK.
Thank you Mary, I ‘think’ he has it in PDF. I’ll take a look, thanks.
I went to the S.O.F. Mary, I see you have to buy the books, and I do not have something that is by him. It may be because of this portion on his salvation page:
The mind is given a holy disposition, the will subdued, the dominion of sin broken, and the affections changed from a love of sin and self to a love of holiness and God. The change is instantaneous, effected solely by the power of God at the time one trusts in Christ as their Savior. The evidence of salvation is found in a changed disposition of mind, the fruits of righteousness, and a newness of life (John 3:1-18, 14:6; Acts 4:12; 2 Cor. 5:17; Eph. 2:1-10; Heb. 9:22; 1 Peter1:18,19).
To say the change is instantaneous, I just cannot agree. Whether the book is good or not, I don’t recommend when someone doesn’t have the gospel down. Can’t go with them on other teachings. Might be excellent, or might make others doubt….
Until I write him, or if he changes it, clarifies the words, I cannot recommend it, sorry….
Seems like someone recommended him before, and yet I could not quite remember the issues.
I went back and searched belief. He does say it’s a free gift and will reference the term believers, but in stating what he says are salvific requirements, never uses the word believe as the sole requirement, and that always concerns me a bit too. Why? Because John said it so many times, and his book was written for a specific reason.
But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name. John 20:31
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Holly, not only is the change not instantaneous, it takes our cooperation to make it happen. It is not automatic – whether instantaneously, or ever.
Romans 12:2: And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Amen Johninnc!
If it were so, I haven’t seen many who have ‘instantaneously changed’, although the change of being born again is instantaneous by the power of God, is does not make it outwardly noticeable to others. Yes, we need to cooperate, and there is a whole lot of admonitions on cooperating in the Word to those who were not showing much instantaneous change….
If you look at the parabolic examples in the Bible, regarding fruit, there isn’t a single parable in the Bible, that i know of, that implies that a person believed, had some fruit, and then fell away unto damnation. In the latest post at my Bible blog, it’s clear, when the passages are compared. There’s also the parable about pounds (money) being gained, but the one who didn’t gain any pounds was the one not favorably received. In Matthew 7, we see the same thing. Christ will say He never knew the false prophets. In every instance, the one who is not received into the kingdom of God, is the one who never knew Christ. In the parable about the wedding (representing the kingdom of God), the one without a wedding garment was taken away. And those who will claim to have known Christ in some way, will find themselves out of the kingdom of God when the door is shut. All in Christ, will enter the kingdom. There is no loss of salvation in view, as far as i can tell. I do believe all believers have some fruit, but it varies greatly, as indicated in the Bible. I don’t think i agree with those who say a born again believer can apostatize to the point of departing from the faith. And i don’t agree with those who say a born again believer can lose the kingdom of God and still be saved. I don’t see that in the Bible. The only ones rejected when the kingdom of God comes on earth, are those who never knew Christ and never had any fruit of the Spirit.
Correction: There is a partly parabolic passage that implies loss of salvation, which is Hebrews 6:4-9. It’s, no doubt, a difficult passage to try to harmonize with the other verses in the Bible that seem to imply that salvation can’t be lost.
Hebrews 6:4-6
[4] For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
[5] And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
[6] If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Question: Does Hebrews 6:4-6 teach that a believer in Christ can lose his salvation?
Answer: No. First of all, Hebrews is written to eternally secure believers in Christ. We know that the Bible is clear that anyone who believe in Jesus as Savior is sealed by the Holy Spirit unto redemption.
Ephesians 1:13:14:
[13] In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed,ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
[14] Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
So, when it says in Hebrews 6:4-6 that it is impossible to renew someone to repentance, I think it means that no one can come to a saving faith in Christ more than once.
If someone could come to a saving faith in Christ more than once, then the clear Biblical doctrine of eternal security for the believer in Christ would be contradicted.
Hebrews 6:7-8 compares and contrasts the blessings and eternal rewards for faithful believers to the lack of blessings (and chastening) and loss of eternal rewards for those who fall away.
Hebrews 6:7-8:
[7] For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
[8] But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
The discussion of the Judgment Seat of Christ, at which all church-age believers will be judged, uses similar language to Hebrews 6:7-8.
1 Corinthians 3:14-15:
[14] If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
[15] If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
This might help from our friends over at expreacherman.com
Another good one I read about this subject was ex-holiness H.A. Ironside. I believe it was on “The Eternal Security of the believer”. Studying Hebrews in context and inductively, I believe people begin to better understand these seeming contradictions. But when there are near 200 eternal security verses, a few that seem to say otherwise, people need to examine more fully what is being spoken of.
Here is the more direct link to problematic passages.
http://expreacherman.com/2014/06/01/some-lordship-salvationists-pet-passages-explained/
Some use the parable of the sowers to suggest some groups were not saved that believed. But then that would negate over 150 verses that state otherwise.
Many think they know Christ, but does He know them? Did they believe on Him for their salvation apart from any work at all? Did they understand the simple equation even in John 3:16.
All that God did, and all we do, “whosoever believeth”? Thanks for commenting, I may not be around much in the next few days Sean.
Nice chatting with you, Holly. I listen to Ralph Yankee Arnold’s YouTube videos, too. And i like to visit the Middletown Bible Church website, both of which are against Lordship Salvation.
Take care…may God bless, -Sean
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I used to read a lot of Zeller’s stuff, the only trouble I started to have is where is the “P” and although he spoke against reformed theology, part of it was missing. I took a few of his Bible classes, and had trouble in some of the commentary, he is a little back door lordship in my humble opinion. He does a good job having known MacArthur all those years in exposing some of the issues, I just don’t agree with him in that area, so just don’t recommend his site any more. Read with your Acts 17:11 goggles on 🙂 Or 1 Thess 5:21..
Thank you for sharing. Fastest growing movement in churches today I do believe.