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Didn’t Dave Hunt fight Calvinism?


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Matt Slick in the screen shot below sure seems to thoroughly understand that Dave was ‘anti-calvinism‘.

What is the excuse for Tom McMahon and the Berean Call?   Did Dave himself allow this compromise, and it became a slippery slope?

Matt Slick/CARM on Dave Hunt
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I have seen some disappointing things with Berean Call for several years.  I posted to Rob Yardley of the Berean Call on his facebook page regarding their promotion of Lordship teacher Mark Cahill which Rob defended.*

But today, in looking up something for Tom McMahon, I ran across sadly his speaking schedule and was really shocked to see that he is speaking with Calvinist Matt Slick, January 23-25th in Boise, ID.  You can see the link here.

McMahonI don’t know all the players, one is a psychiatrist, but because I saw Matt Slick, I decided to do some research (Prove all things – 1 Thess 5:21). Since I have a family member in Boise, I sure wanted to know about the church.

Starting with the church, (I always try to go to the horse’s mouth, and see their statement of faith.  That is, if you can find it). I look for their presentation of the gospel line up with the truth of God’s Word.  I also search to see if they are promoting mystical, new age, or Calvinism and reformed preachers/founders.  I unfortunately hit the gold mine.

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son.  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him into your house nor greet him; for he who greets him shares in his evil deeds.  2 Jn 1:9-11

The Well Church – Pastor Josh Bales

The Church’s ‘Gospel Centered’ message (as they put it) is this; “This means that we passionately believe in the doctrines of gracerecovered by the original Reformers, and we do not shy away from preaching them from the Scriptures on Sunday morning or in small groups….”

To be very clear, their ‘Gospel Centered Message’ = T.U.L.I.P.  (As my friend Marian W. would say, they are not ‘tip-toeing through the tulip’s’, it’s right there in your face.)

Augustine-JoshBales-WellChurchBoiseThought it would be interesting to check what Well church and the pastor Josh Bales thinks of the Roman Catholic Bishop of Hippo, Augustine, founder of ‘Calvinism'(my next article I think).

Calvin seemed to worship Augustine. In his “Institutes of Christianity” you can see him quote him or name him favorably about a thousand times.

Seems that the Pastor at “The Well Church” feels favorably enough about Augustine to preach several sermons on him.  I wonder if he has read the ‘conversion story’ of Augustine yet?  Or were his ‘works’ proof enough to decide he was saved?

Seems he also agrees with John Calvin, and also preaches seven sermons on sermon audio regarding his “Institutes of Calvinism (ahem Christianity)”.  He calls them “Doctrines of Christian Liberty”….I have the Calvin’s Institutes of Christianity, they are available to all to download.  If you want to start by searching just the name of Augustine, it will likely take you hours to get through and read each incident.
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And then there is Matt Slick….

I would consider him a hyper-calvinist (though he denies this).  His site is ‘Christian apologetics and research ministry – CARM.  His daughter Rachael sadly testifies of her youth growing up, with her dad’s pop quizzes nightly on theological tend cent terms… She became quite good in ‘the faith’ as he liked to refer to those teachings, and is now an atheist.   Matt says, “God has not yet given her the grace of redemption”.2  I wonder if he has considered it was because he never gave her the true gospel…so sad to me, she is well trained in apologetics.  Many of the Calvinist bloggers even said she ‘displayed evidence of being the elect’, but nowhere does it say she believed the gospel… Read here for her tragic story.

Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.  1 Tim 4:16

Pastor Jack Weaver of Expreacherman Ministries warned T.A. McMahon

Here is an excerpt regarding a conversation Jack Weaver had with Tom McMahon earlier regarding his quotes of Calvinist teachers and authors. (link found here to this comment)

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This post is nearly two years old, and so we know that T.A. McMahon had to have eyes wide opened to have defended quoting and recommending these men, fully aware. (I have recommended Gendron before, not knowing he preached Calvinism).

I asked Berean Call’s facebook Ministry site why Mr. McMahon was speaking with these people.

 I finished with, “ Dave would not approve at all…. what a slap in the face I’m sorry…”

Their response was…

The Berean Call: On the contrary, Dave Hunt often said that he would be willing to speak at the Vatican itself as long as he was given liberty to speak as the Spirit directed. That being said, next week’s conference is being organized by Anthony Harper of Intermountain Christian News*, not The Well Church, and Tom accepted the Anthony’s invitation long before the venue or other speakers were set. We covet your prayers for Tom as he continues to prepare his very challenging messages.
(It really doesn’t matter who is ‘organizing it’ as every man mentioned there is also preaching there. That’s just sleight of hand tactics, diversionary.)
*Anthony Harper is very familiar with CARM’s Matt Slick.  He has hosted radio messages with him. (Dr. Harper and Matt Slick are guests on the Chris Kelly show on KBXL 94.1FM in the Boise, Idaho area).
An astute FB commenter responded to Berean Calls excuse of:  “On the contrary, Dave Hunt often said that he would be willing to speak at the Vatican itself as long as he was given liberty to speak as the Spirit directed.”
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COMMENTER:  I think we are all well aware of the fact that NO ONE, would be “given liberty to speak as the Spirit directed.”, at the vatican.I understand that Mr. McMahon may have accepted the invitation from a trusted friend not knowing the other speakers, but he knows who they are now, and I would think he would know that canceling is his only option.
That is, unless he has a clear plan to expose the lie of calvinism/LS.Does Berean Call have any idea who Matt Slick is or what he stands for?
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.  1 Thessalonians 5:21These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.  Acts 17:11
Please do not be another ministry that falls into compromise over this important issue. Dave would not have written ‘What Love is This‘ if he did not see the problem.  (End Quote)

Then we have pastor Jordan Hall.

His site says; Pastor Jordan Hall is lead pastor of Fellowship Baptist Church in Sidney, Montana. JD holds a BA in Religious Education from Williams Baptist College and M.A. from Arkansas State University. JD has been married for ten years to Mandy, who teaches their three children at home. JD is a columnist for the Intermountain Christian News and other publications. He’s also the author of a new book “A Baptist Catechism.” FBC Sidney is currently planting churches in nearby North Dakota.  It list three sites, one of which is Reformation Montana.

If that doesn’t convince you, look at his statement of faith on the church site.  Oh wait, you’ll have to go to Amazon to buy a book first if you really want to know what he believes in “A Baptist Catechism”.  Or, you can just assume since he recommends 9 Marks (Mark DeverCalvinist) as a litmus test for a healthy church. Devers also approves of and teaches Calvinist doctrines.  Gospel Coalition credits Devers with sparking “this resurrection of Reformed theology among younger American evangelicals”3.

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HAS ANOTHER MINISTRY BITTEN THE DUST?

The elders at Ephesus were exhorted: (Where are TBC’s elders?)

Therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all men.  For I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God.  Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood.  For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock.  Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears.  “So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified.  Acts 20:26-32

HOW CAN I COME TO KNOW JESUS AS MY SAVIOR?

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Doctrines of Grace – also known as Calvinism or Reformed teaching – TULIP.  A term made popular recently by John MacArthur.

2 – http://carm.org/paltalk-westoftherockies

3 – http://thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/tgc/2013/10/24/where-did-all-these-calvinists-come-from/

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