UNDERSTANDING CALVINISM & LORDSHIP

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I BELIEVE BOTH TO BE A FALSE TEACHING

I wanted to put in one place, some videos, books, dvd’s and free pdf files, that might help those of you who do not quite understand the teaching of Calvinism and Lordship doctrine.  I will keep adding over time!  In Christ’s love to all who visit here, Holly

CALVINISM

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EXPOSING CALVINISM FOR WHAT IT IS – Sermon – Pastor Tom Cucuzza

THE DARK SIDE OF CALVINISM – Free book by George Bryson

THE FIVE POINTS OF CALVINISM, WEIGHED AND FOUND WANTING – Free PDF by George Bryson

CALVINISM & FREE GRACE: EXAMINING CALVINISM & SALVATION – A DVD series by Fred Chay including PDFs, listened to all, very reasonable @ $15  

ATTACHING PERSONAL RIGHTEOUSNESS TO THE BACK SIDE OF THE GOSPEL’S REQUIREMENTS, PDF by Pastor J. O. Hosler, Th.D.

CONFRONTING CALVINISM (A 3 part sermon series) by Dennis Rokser

THE OTHER SIDE OF CALVINISM – Laurence Vance

WHAT LOVE IS THIS – Dave Hunt

TULIP AND THE BIBLE: Comparing the works of Calvin to the Word of God – Dave Hunt

VIDEOS

 

THE ELECTION OF GOD

VIDEOS

REPENTANCE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

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UNDERSTANDING REPENTANCE – Sermon, Part 1, Pastor Tom Cucuzza

UNDERSTANDING REPENTANCE – Sermon, Part 2, Pastor Tom Cucuzza

REPENTANCE, IT’S MEANING AND APPLICATION – Free PDF booklet, Pastor Thomas Cucuzza

REPENTANCE, Thorough teaching by Ron Shea, all verses on repentance referenced.

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WHAT’S WRONG WITH LORDSHIP DOCTRINE?

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SECURE FOREVER! GOD’S PROMISE OR OUR PERSEVERANCE? by Dr. Thomas Cucuzza, Amazon: both paperback & Kindle

LORDSHIP SALVATION, A BIBLICAL EVALUATION AND A RESPONSE, by Charlie Bing

GRACE UNDER FIRE: THE FALLOUT OF LORDSHIP FAITH TEACHING, Free PDF, by Bruce Bauer

PERSEVERANCE VERSUS PRESERVATION, free PDF or html, by Dr. Charlie Bing

VIDEOS

Dr. Ralph Yankee Arnold – 3 parts in one video

Ray Comfort – what’s wrong with his gospel?

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The Accursed Message of The “Way of the Master”

Isn’t that kind of strong?  Harsh?  My judgment is made on Ray’s doctrine and his teaching from his own videos and blogs and home page.

I’ve had some people ask about Ray Comfort’s Gospel.  Some have shared they have family and friends that are completely sold out to his gospel.  They LOVE the Way of the Master program.  They swear by it.  Some, well, they love to go around calling others ‘false converts’…. (never once asking if they have believed the gospel, which is the ONE condition to be saved).

the_evidence_bibleA friend recently asked me, “So what is it about Ray Comfort’s gospel that is a problem”?

I intend to answer that.  But first, I am going to start with a mini-blog and allow comments, pro or con, assuming it is relevant and without malice, (no preaching his accursed message please).  Any sincere posts sans multi-insults, are welcome to be part of this discussion.  It can include problems someone else has seen, or even pro’s someone else finds in his method of preaching.

I will state right now that I am firmly convinced that his gospel is unfortunately another gospel, as likeable or charming as he may be to some.  I have to say that I hope that he and Kirk Cameron have become waylaid by this lordship doctrine teaching and at one time believed the only gospel.  The ‘turn from all sin’ or ‘repent from all your sin’ message is another gospel.  This works-based salvation that will not save.  This blog is open to questions which I will attempt to answer in this or an upcoming blog. Not sure if I’ll combine it all here or actually start a new one.

Why is ‘repent from all your sin’ incorrect? 

“Repentance, its meaning and Application” by Tom Cucuzza, Free PDF download


 

IS TURN FROM ALL OUR SINS THE GOSPEL?

I will provide a short portion of what I have written so far, in order to start the dialogue and hopefully some comments I can address from his followers, or those who are concerned who have seen his ‘gospel’.

matt7The Picture on the left, is Ray Comfort misusing Matthew 7, to identify his ‘false converts’ instead of rightly providing context this passage speaks to, which is ‘false prophets’ and their bad fruit.

Ray Comfort says regarding Matt 7:15-22:

“These are perhaps the most frightening verses in the Bible. Vast multitudes of professing Christians fit into the category spoken of here. They call Jesus ‘Lord,’ but they practice lawlessness. They profess faith in Jesus, but have no regard for the divine law. They tell ‘fibs’ or ‘white’ lies, take things that belong to others, have a roaming eye for the opposite sex, etc. They are liars, thieves, and adulterers at heart, who will be cast from the gates of heaven into the jaws of hell.” END QUOTE

I always wonder when they (the Calvinists and Lordship teachers) speak of these things, do they not consider their own sin? Do they think they are without sin? Is it just having a “regard” for the “divine law” or having enough regard? Or wouldn’t it have to be a perfect regard for the law?   Or is it that they don’t ‘practice’ sin?  How much sin is ‘practicing’ sin?  I’m guessing it must be two since Ray used ‘fibs’ as a plural.  How many fibs is acceptable?  1, 2, 5, 10 in a lifetime?  This is the trouble with adding to what His Word says.  Minds are corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ (2 Cor 11:3-4).

Surely the above quote makes it clear, that Ray Comfort thinks anyone who tells more than one white lie (plural – fibs), or a combination of any of the above sins, is going to hell even if they have professed faith in Christ. This is similar to the teaching of sinless perfection along with a hyper ‘perseverance of the saints’ (and no, that does not equal a Biblical teaching of eternal security).

What is Lawlessness?  Those who are not righteous….

For me?

For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.  Rom 10:4

For them….

For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.  Rom 10:3

For you?  Are you sure of Heaven? Click here if you want to know more. 

COMFORT SAYS

“Merely being sorry for your sins, or confessing them to God won’t help you. You must turn from sin (he says that = repent), and your faith must be in Jesus Christ alone. He is the only “grounds” for God to grant mercy towards you. If you’re not sure of your salvation, make Psalm 51 your own prayer.” 1

If you are of the persuasion that turning from sin is part of something you must do in order to be saved, you may think it sounds o.k.  If you understand that repent = change your mind, then you should look at what repenting means to Ray to understand why his gospel is accursed.

If you would like a better understanding of the Biblical definition of repentance, please consider these two sermons by Pastor Thomas Cucuzza.

(See Tom Cucuzza) UNDERSTANDING REPENTANCE Pt 1

(See Tom Cucuzza) UNDERSTANDING REPENTANCE Pt 2

Let’s look at one of his Calvinist supporters John MacArthur:

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By the way, “repentance from sin” is never found once preached with the gospel.  Repent is used at times, however, repent does not = repent from sin.  Turning from sin is found in the Word as a WORK (Jonah 3:10).  Works may be good things, but they may NOT be added to the gospel.  (What is repentance?)

Ray Comfort also takes the Calvinist view of repentance.  You are ‘gifted’ with the correct repentance in order to be saved.  Salvation doesn’t come from ‘making a decision’ but through repentance GIVEN by God.  So maybe you are chosen for heaven, maybe chosen to hell by their understanding of Scripture.  I do not agree.  And I do not think it taught in the Bible, although they have their proof texts selectively ordered to teach it.

So as the saying goes, if you are believing for their type of salvation; WAIT FOR IT….

That would be your only hope if what Ray Comfort preaches were true.

Ray Comfort also teaches salvation doesn’t come by a ‘decision’ (belief), as well as the Calvinist ‘faith is a gift’ teaching (through the gift of repentance), and the Calvinist John 6:44 proof-text of no one coming except God draw Him.  They leave out the fact that God draws ALL men(John 12:32 among many, many others).

 Comfort says:

repentance=God1

(From the booklet Save Yourself Some Pain.)

Comfort believes repentance is forsaking our sins:  We are dead in our trespasses and sins (Ephesians 2:1) and until we forsake them through repentance, we cannot be made alive in Christ.”   (Keep in mind he is speaking to a a sinner, one who is ungodly, and without strength (Rom 5), but he insists you forsake your sin, turn from all sin in order to be saved).  

If this is true, why did John leave that out of the gospel of John?  Where is ‘turning from your sins’?  Where is ‘repenting from your sins’? Where is ‘forsaking your sins’?  Was the beloved disciple lying?  Did he omit something?  Was his purpose statement incomplete?

And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this bookbut these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.  John 20:30-31

(Did the Beloved Disciple John tell the truth or not?)


WHAT IS WRONG WITH RAY COMFORT’S ASSOCIATIONS?


Keep in mind RAY COMFORT’S definition of repent is to TURN FROM ALL SINS

Comfort: “The forgiveness that is in Jesus Christ is conditional upon ‘repentance towards God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ’ (Acts 20:21). It is a gift that God offers to everyone, but individuals must receive it by repenting and trusting in Christ, or they will remain dead in their sins.  (This would be true if repentance was defined to mean a change of mind towards God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.)

Also bear in mind by this additional statement below, Ray Comfort must be sinless.

“No one has Biblical grounds to continue in sin, assuming that they are safe just because Jesus died on the cross. See 1 John 3:4-6.”   (THE EVIDENCE BIBLE, by Ray Comfort, pg. 1513; 2003, Bridge-Logos Publishers)

ANOTHER INTERVIEW WITH GOD

In the video, “Another Interview with God” (go to the end to see the ‘prayer’), Living Waters will be identified at about 4:20 on as the maker of the video.

AT 3:38 Comfort says: This is what you could pray to get right with God:

“Dear God, I repent (turn away from) of all my sins (name them if they come to mind). This day I put my trust in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior because I know You sent Him to save me from your wrath. Please forgive me, and grant me your gift of everlasting life. Change my heart, and make me who You want me to be. I ask this in Jesus name. Amen.” 2

At 4:10 Ray Comfort explains the two things you must do to be saved. (He had already asked the guy and he had him so confused, he had initially said he believed). Where is the gospel? Ray says you must:

1) Repent which (according to him) means to Turn from ALL sins

2) Trust alone in Jesus Christ for your salvation 3

 

See the article by Jim at “Stand for the Faith” Blog.

‘How to be Saved’ in Ray Comfort’s own Words

 

This will be my stopping point for now.  No, I have no personal vendetta against Ray Comfort.  So those kinds of comments I will not be posting.  Please prayerfully consider your questions as foolish arguments will be declined.

In Christ’s love, Holly

Added 7-12

Do you see any issues with this comment by Spurgeon that Ray Comfort posted?
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FOOTNOTES:

These are not recommended sites necessarily, most often these are straight from the ‘horse’s mouth’ and are so that people can hear/read for themselves what really is being taught.  This is only a very small portion of what will be shared.

1http://www.livingwaters.com/save-yourself-some-pain

2http://youtu.be/PvJYkLaNIpE

3http://youtu.be/4Owc5xgqoV0

GOD’S PROMISE – His Testimony of His Son

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Eternal Security (OSAS) is the Gospel.

TO ALL WHO BELIEVE YOU CAN LOSE YOUR SALVATION


Hello to all professing believers.

Jn5-24I do want you all to understand, I am a believer in Once Saved Always Saved although I most definitely am not a Calvinist, nor an Arminian (as my statement of Faith says). So if you think that is heresy, I want you to be clearly informed on my stand.  If we are facebook friends, please do feel free to remove me, and/or mark me as one did a moment ago ago using Titus 3:10 regarding me using the Word to prove our salvation is everlasting and eternal.

I do NOT believe your salvation can be lost… If you teach otherwise, I actually feel you preach another gospel that will not save and that you are the heretic.  Here are some things to consider.

DO YOU BELIEVE GOD’S TESTIMONY OR NOT? 

 Will God take away something that is ETERNAL?  Do we have Eternal Security or not?  Or is it temporal?

 

  • Can we be UN-BORN AGAIN? Jn 3:3,6

 

  • Are we somehow made UN-ALIVE? Eph 2:1; 1 Pet 3:18

 

  • UNFORGIVEN? (Isn’t that a movie?) Will He UNFORGIVE you in the reverse of ALL your SINS?

                How does that work? Eph 1:7

 
  • Will He UN-REDEEM YOU? Rom3:24
  • Will He UNCIRCUMCISE YOUR HEART? Col 2:13
  • Next, will God UN-ADOPT you? Rom 8:15
  • Then will God UN-BLESS you? Eph 1:3

 

PLEASE REALLY PONDER THESE THINGS….

 
In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began.  Titus 1:2
 
  • IS THE OLD MAN DUG UP? (After being buried?) Rom 6:4
  • MADE A SLAVE AGAIN? Gal 4:6-7
  • CAN YOU BE UN-QUICKENED? Eph 2:1,5; Col 2:13, 1 Pet 3:18
  • WILL GOD REMOVE HIS SPIRIT, THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST OUT OF YOU? Rom 8:9; Gal 4:6; Eph 3:17; Col 1:27
  • WE ARE ONE FLESH. WILL HE REMOVE US FROM CHRIST’S BODY, HIS FLESH, HIS BONES? Eph 1:23, 5:30; 1 Cor 12:27
  • CAN WE BE UN-COMPLETED? Col 2:10; Phil 1:6; Heb 13:21
 

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  • Do we give CPR to resurrect the old things that were passed away?

 

  • If we are a new creation, how can we become an old creation or un-created?

 

  • Does God pass us back from the light into the darkness? From life, back unto death?
 
I thought we only died once?
 
 
 
  • So who would take us out of the Kingdom of the Son of His love, when God the Father put us in?
  • How do we get UN-SANCTIFIED by His Blood? Heb 10:10, 14, 1 Cor 6:11
  • Do we become UN-PERFECTED, once we were perfected FOREVER? Heb 10:14
  • Can we be UN-JUSTIFIED, and UN-GLORIFIED? Rom 8
  • Who will UN-ANOINT us, and UN-SEAL us?
  • Which one will CANCEL OUT the Holy Spirit’s GUARANTEE?
  • Who will rip JESUS out of OUR HEART? Eph 3:17, Rom 8:9-11, Gal 4:6
  • Who will take away our inheritance that was sealed UNTIL the day of redemption?
  • Speaking of redemption, can we be UN-REDEEMED? Who gets the payment back?
  • If we were born again of the INCORRUPTIBLE SEED, how can we suddenly CORRUPT that seed? 1 Pet 1:23
  • Who will UN-BAPTIZE us from the the body of Christ? 1 Cor 12:13

 

Who will snatch us out of His hand? John 6:28-30

  • Who will bring us down, and unseat us from heavenly places? Eph 2:6

 

  • Who will separate us from His love? Rom 8:38-39

 

  • Who will go against our Deliverer?

 

  • Be UN-PRESERVED? Go against the One who says He will preserve us?

 

  • Whose prayer will be answered over the Son of God? (to not lose one) John 17

 

  • Who will UN-PREPARE that place for us? John 14

When we believe…

HE GIVES US ETERNAL LIFE

 

  •  We HATH/HAVE (possess, held in the hand) ETERNAL LIFE. (I John 5:9-14; John 5:24; John 6:28-29, 35,36,40,47)

 

IS GOD ABLE OR NOT? 

  • Can He complete the work He started? Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ. Phil 1:6
  • Is He not the FINISHER of our faith? (Heb 12:1-2)
  • If God, foreknowing we would lose salvation, do you think He would take all that effort to do all these things, just to let us walk away?
  • We have either believed God’s testimony of His Son, or we have made Him a liar. (I John 5:9-13)

Would he waste the precious blood of Jesus to sanctify us FOREVER, (Heb10:14) to unsanctify us? This contradicts His very Word, His testimony and record of His Son, when He says eternal life, He means ETERNAL.


SOME BIBLE REFERENCES QUOTED


* We are born again of incorruptible seed. I Pet 1:23; John 3:3-7
* Sanctified by Christ’s blood(2 Thess 2:13; Heb 10:14; Heb 13:12-13) -
different than being sanctified in our walk. Clean in God’s sight, but still
need His Word to guide and direct, and cleanse us.
* Justified and glorified (Rom 5:1; Rom 8:30)
* Anointed & Sealed by the Holy Spirit – and given the Spirit in our hearts
as a Guarantee – 2 Corinthians 1:21-22, Eph 1:13
How long? And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto
the day of redemption. Eph 4:30
* Sealed as promise of our inheritance until the day of redemption – Eph
1:12-14
* A new creature. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature:
old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 2 Cor 5:17
* “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or
gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you
from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without
blemish or defect” 1 Peter 1:18-19
* Baptized by the Spirit into the body – I Cor 12:13
* Jesus came to dwell in our hearts by faith (the Father, Son and Holy
Spirit – Rom 8:9, Eph 3:17)
* Held in His hand, once given eternal life, never to be snatched out (John
10:28-30)
* Made accepted in the beloved – Eph 1:6
* Raised up and Seated in heavenly places – Eph 2:6
* Delivered and preserved by Him – 2 Timothy 4:18
* Prayed for by Jesus – John 17:20-26
* The will of the Father that He should lose none. John 6:39
* Jesus is now preparing a place for us and will receive us to Himself! John
14:1-3
* Let His Word build you up: “So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to
the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you an
inheritance among all those who are sanctified. Acts 20:32, 1 CORINTHIANS
6:11
* Saved to the uttermost: Heb 7:25
* Perfected Forever: Heb 10:14

How Eternal is Eternal Life and How Secure is Eternal Security?

hollysgarcia:

Are you doubting you are saved? Or maybe doubting if you will stay saved? Read this by my brother in Christ, Pastor Jack Weaver.

Originally posted on Notes From A Retired Preacher:

By Jack Weaver

John wrote a wonderful article June 30th about the precious Bible verse John10:28. I have recently corresponded with some of our dear friends in Australia so I analyzed for them the verse John 10:28. In doing so, I investigated the meanings of some of the exciting words in that verse.

It answers the question, How Eternal is Eternal Life and How Secure is Eternal Security.

Our Australian friends had been witnessing to a gentleman who proclaimed that a believer can walk away from an ETERNAL relationship with Jesus Christ.

John 10:28: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

I usually like to ask such folks; “When Jesus Christ gives you ETERNAL life upon belief, what does the word ETERNAL really mean to you”?

The Greek word for ETERNAL is Aionios

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